Nsaxana - Profil | Út 2.1.2018 15:46:40
keď už Stela, tak jedine Zázvorková
Nabcdddd - Profil | Čt 28.12.2017 15:07:13
dalsi Alan Hawk
Now I need to talk about the Twin Power SW, not because it belongs to this category, but rather because people still think it's a watered down Stella when it certainly isn't. Unlike the Saltiga and Catalina situation where they are the same reel for all practical purposes, the Stella SW and Twin Power SW are not in the same league, nor even in two consecutive leagues. In 2009 I detailed the differences between the previous generations, and the following is an updated list of the differences between the 2013 Stella SW and the 2015 Twin Power SW.
1) The drive gear of the TP SW does not have the bronze surface treatment of the Stellas SW's drive gear.
2) The Stella SW has a premium full metal (aluminium alloy) body and side cover, while the TP SW has a metal piece that forms the stem and a part of the frame, then a plastic body that contains the entire drive train is screwed into that metal piece, similar to other reels such as the Stradic FK, Spheros SW, Saragosa SW, etc.
3) The Stella SW has a first tier anti-reverse clutch that is housed inside an integral piece of the metal frame, while the TP SW has a second tier anti-reverse clutch that is attached via screws to the plastic body, again just like several mid range Shimanos.
4) The TP SW is missing some important ball bearings, such as the ones the oscillation worm gear is mounted on.
5) The oscillation idle gear is directly connected to the pinion in the TP SW, when in the Stella SW there is a set of intermediate gears between them. Not an important one, but I'm just listing all the differences.
6) The TP SW has no mechanical backup anti-reverse.
7) The TP SW does not have the "floating shaft" feature.
That's not to say the Twin Power SW is a bad reel. Not at all. Just that it's nowhere near the premium Stella SW. To me the Twin Power SW is virtually a Saragosa SW with a metal rotor, and the Saragosa SW and Spheros SW even have some advantages over the Twin Power SW because of their tough locomotive oscillation and Alumite coating on the drive gear. As you know both the Saragosa and Spheros have the same full sealing of the Twin Power SW. Is the Twin Power SW worth more than twice the price of the Saragosa and three times the price of a Spheros? No, not by any stretch of imagination.
Nabcdddd - Profil | Čt 28.12.2017 15:01:24
Alan Hawk, typek co o navijakoch vie viac ako cely mrk dokopy a jeho nazor na Twin Power vs Stella. Pre tych co si myslia, ze twin je vlastne stella :-)
More than a few readers have asked why Shimano's second reel, Twin Power SW, has never appeared on my lists. While in theory it's the "second reel", the Twin Power SW has always been a completely different reel to the Stella, and in reality it is much closer to mid range Shimanos than it is to the flagship reel. The Twin Power SW has the "budget" housing with a plastic gearbox attached to a metal frame, a completely different anti-reverse clutch, no back up anti-reverse, no floating shaft, and bearings are missing from vital locations just to name a few of the severe downgrades. This is a completely different situation to the 2011 Catalina which shares virtually all the premium features of the 2010 Saltiga . The 2015 Twin Power SW is practically a Saragosa SW with a metal rotor for much more money. Actually the Saragosa SW (and Spheros SW) are by design internally stronger and require less maintenance than the Twin Power SW. In short, the Twin Power SW belongs in the same basket of redundant overpriced reels as the Sustain FG, and you have better alternatives to these two in the Stradic FJ, Spheros SW, and Saragosa SW, the three of which maintain well deserved places on my top lists.
Nmilanpindryc - Profil | Pá 19.11.2021 0:30:47
u x a >> tady psali ze chytat se da se vsim…
NPeter94 - Profil | St 8.5.2019 20:10:02
Na Stelle FI sa neda vymenit len lozisko,ale cela suciastka.casto sa to kazi a diel stoji cca 40€
Takto to maju riesene nove navi, ako stella,vanquish,twin power,stradic
Nabcdddd - Profil | Ne 14.4.2019 14:30:28
siluri >> tympadom si nekupuj navi za 500e ;)
NPiscicapus - Profil | Ne 14.4.2019 10:18:41
doktor multiplikator >> jestliže je ložisko znečištěné, tak je načaté a pokud už není zadřené, moc mu k tomu nechybí.
Zkrátka nic mu nepomůže - ani svěcený aceton a ani svěcené kvápnutí.
NPiscicapus - Profil | Ne 14.4.2019 7:56:28
doktor multiplikator >> zadřené ložisko těžko zachráníš tím, že ho vypereš v acetonu, osušíš a "kvápneš". Takže nevymýšlej ptákoviny.
NDzano - Profil | Pá 12.4.2019 19:32:50
siluri - 12.4.2019 11:06:02 >> Nie, mám 3 (2500, 3000, 4000) a ani na jednej som nič také nepostrehol, taktiež ani na FJ. Ono by to práve kvôli nečistotám malo byť utesnené, ale nerozoberal som takže potvrdiť nemôžem. Ten obrázok čo tam máš je z FJ.
Nu x a - Profil | Pá 12.4.2019 11:17:40
siluri >> kup si catanu a máš klid,když v ní něco zarachtá rozšlápnu jí a hodím do krbu,ze skříně vytáhnu novou..
Nabcdddd - Profil | Čt 28.12.2017 15:32:31
MB >> :-) na daiwu a jej MagSeal technologiu ma ten typek tiez zaujimavy nazor
a cisto mrkacky treba dodat ze Alan Hawk je kkt co len zavidi vsetkym co su tak hlboko v repe ze prekukli shimano a nakupuju Stelly odete do TP
dojde poldeci a vysvetli ti...
NTony.R - Profil | Ne 24.12.2017 5:43:19
Ahoj. Mám stellu f 4000,fa 4000 a novou fi 3000. Chytám s tím už 10 let,fi 2roky a šlape to jak hodinky. Mohu jen doporučit. A utáhne to i slušý rybky. Není se čeho bát. Snad jenom ceny a ceny náhradních cívek....
NMr.Stick - Profil | So 23.12.2017 17:12:33
Mam 4000 i 2500 zhruba rok.
Reel dizajnove povedeny, zarazka zpetneho chodu mi nijak neschazi. Nicmene...v podstate temer to same je Twin Power. Stella neni dvakrat lepsi, jen dvakrat drazsi. Pokud ale neresis prachy, chybu neudelas. S odpovidajici gramazi a odporem nastrah, je to motatko na dlouhe roky.
Nbowman - Profil | So 23.12.2017 15:14:00
Drymochares >> Dělat si radost je potřeba.Nenech se zviklat :o))
NRytíř - Profil | So 23.12.2017 15:06:03
poldeci >> nojo no.Někdo to potřebuje slyšet,že koupil dobře.To je to samý jak tady furt slyším prut padá na huhu,nevyváženej atd..
Já tohle nikdy neřešil,nezkoušel a ani nevšim.Prostě přijdu k vodě a chci chytat a ne si hrát sprutem na prstě jak se převáží:-))
NDrymochares - Profil | So 23.12.2017 13:16:03
poldeci >>
Asi tak....to ze to je opravdu kvalita..A ne sr acka jako nove ultegry.
Uz mi par lidi napsalo SZ uzitecne rady a zadny zvasty o nicem..Takze respektive uz nic ;-)
To nejsi prvni kdo by chtel mit moje problemy :-D
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